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Constantino Gastaldi
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Do you happen to know this beauty?

Beitrag von Constantino Gastaldi » Samstag, 1 November 2008, 23:36

:?: Hi, maybe u can help me with this one. Have you seen some that could be this one? By its looks what do u think may it be? Ok, ok an hibrid....and so..... :?
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:?: Well asking is free, isn´t it? So any clue about this one? It is a species and may be a Southern one but which? :roll:

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Beitrag von JoachimInB » Sonntag, 2 November 2008, 22:46

Hello Constantino,

no idea, but they are nice and desirable plants. Especially the dark one is stunning. Do you have any clue where these are from? Are they from the wild?

Cheers,
Joachim

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Hi Joachin

Beitrag von Constantino Gastaldi » Sonntag, 2 November 2008, 23:06

Ist das kalt in Berlin?
Here we are having a whole month of rain ! When the sun appears it will burn the plants....
Well, the silver plant is splendid but I do not have any idea what it might be as it was purchased in Europe by a friend in Innsbruck Austria. Sure it is a hybrid. Silver with red big spination a show plant. It was imported into Europe from Australia. My friend bought it from a catalog and it was my birthday gift. It spent a whole winter in Innsbruch in a window sill watching the falling snow. Outside the temperature was freezing polar bear. It survived nicely and it was brought to me by an old charming woman that lives in Rio. She brought it int her hand bag and was obliged to put the inside out and when the plant came into view she was asked: Is this real? The answer was sharp and fast as a thunder blair: Yes, it is real, a real fake! Passed.....

The one you liked, the dark one may be a native plant from Rio Grande do Sul or even Uruguay. I bought it from a plant vendor who made no ideia about the plant. I saw it in two more places around Porto Alegre. I thought it was a Hechtia but its not as it is flowering as a Dyckia. It may be a native Southern plant. I am quite sure it is not a hybrid. If you liked it that much I will try to get pure seeds and send them to you. When the flower are visible I will photograph it and show here. OK? The plant was shadowed a bit, it must get better when the sun gets back to my garden.

Eine Prosit für dich.
Do not expose yourself to the cold in there "und bete, habe ein einsbein mit weiss Rhein wine und sauerkraut mit weiss wurst." Did u manage to understand my miserable German?

sanga

Beitrag von sanga » Dienstag, 4 November 2008, 12:50

Hi from a newbie.I have been reading your posts with interest and noticed this particular plant is very similar with a couple of hybrids I bought a couple of years ago in australia.They are D Silver Plate which is very close and D Silver Lining which is more silver.Both hybrids were done by the same person.I hope this helps in your identification.
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Sanga, Thank you....

Beitrag von Constantino Gastaldi » Dienstag, 4 November 2008, 13:22

Sanga in our native language is a very beautiful word and it means a little creek with potable water. A sanga is a very safe place to rest close to. If one were inside your country (in the outback) amid the red lands this one would be safe if a sanga was nearby. So this is a lovely word even to our ears to listen to the sound of it.

Yes that first plant was made in Australia got into Spain or Germany and rested for more than two whole months in a window sill in Innsbruck Austria. It suffered a lot ´cause it took a whole year of wintertime! Thank you. I would like to see yours.

Cheers from Brazil

sanga

Beitrag von sanga » Mittwoch, 5 November 2008, 11:30

Hi Constantino

After having a closer look my plants do seem to be slightly different but I hope this does help you on your path to identification.. <a></a></a><a><img src="http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp101/bradsanga/IMG_1864.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

Cheers Sanga

sanga

Beitrag von sanga » Mittwoch, 5 November 2008, 11:32

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sanga

Beitrag von sanga » Mittwoch, 5 November 2008, 11:35

Self named

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Hoping this helps.....Sanga

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Sanga, all these plants are great and fosteriana derivings

Beitrag von Constantino Gastaldi » Donnerstag, 6 November 2008, 0:38

Yes we can see from a great distance they have Dyckia fosteriana as the main blood. If You keep on utiling their seeds they will tend to get back to the begining and produce plants very similiar to the ancient ancestrals of these plants. If you cross them their offspring will be a miriad of new plants all looking alike but slitely different from one another.
Dyckia fosteriana is native to Paraná, a state up to mine and some 500 km North from me. There are three types or sub-types or species related we may refer to as affinis, in nature:
- one that comes from emboque region ( The classic one and the one known abroad)
- One that comes from Sengés region, red covered by silver much prettier than the classic one. Also seen near Cambé in Paraná.
- The third is known as Fosteriana nivosa ´cause the silver is intense on the new formed parts of the plant. It look like the snow is covering the top of the crown. It is smaller than the classic form and come from a place closer to me, some 300km, Comes Lapa region. It is a dwarf form and a much beautiful one.
Try to polinate your plants with themselves. You are bond to have many different and beautiful plants. All hibrids.
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My plant is tottaly different and has no fosteriana in its blood. Maybe Argentea from D. sp from Cachoeria Dourada and D.Dawsoni of some kind ( there are many abroad). Maybe may be, ok?

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Part of the mystery may be solved, part....

Beitrag von Constantino Gastaldi » Donnerstag, 6 November 2008, 16:54

Hi my friend from Australia. This is worth reading and seeing.
That Australian hibrid may have Lad Cutak (an American hibrid of Mr. Ladislau Cutak) blood or even maybe a F2 or F ............just Lord knows. But look those pictures of my garden and plants from the same procedence just a year older. A plant much, much, much smaller were sold in Europe by ( Now sit, sit or u are bound to fall!) Three hundred Euros!!!!!!!!! Of course they were gift from very healtht and out of their minds friends in Innsbruck, Austria. Ten are enough to buy a brand new car! Look they are extremely beautifull and appealing plants but too too much expensive ones! They are young and did not flowered yet but it is worth to see them: HAVE U SEEN THOSE BEFORE have a hint of what they might be?
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Beitrag von sanga » Samstag, 8 November 2008, 23:45

Hi Costantino
Here are some of my seedlings that where self polinated a while ago from D Silver Sheen but with my untrained eye I must wait a while longer before I start to cull my babies
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This person in Europe must have REALLY wanted that plant.
Cheers Sanga

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Sanga, your plants are superb ones!

Beitrag von Constantino Gastaldi » Sonntag, 9 November 2008, 6:59

Sanga your plants bear all the good qualities a s very good Dyckia seedling may have! do not any culling but try to maintain them or give them to someone who cares.
They have a very good shape and architeture. A good structured Dyckia may be hard to find. They are perfectly round and lovely to the eyes.
Do no culling!
You are doing positively right!
Care!
Be nice, be good and behave and watch out for the dingos when in outback.
Constantino

sanga

Beitrag von sanga » Sonntag, 9 November 2008, 11:25

Hello Again
While we are on the subject of 'do you know this beauty' I would like some help identifying this Hectia? that I have had for several Years but has never flowered for me.It was bought as H.argentea but I strongly suspect that to be incorrect so I would welcome any help.
Thank you for your kind words Constantino.
In our country a 'sanga' is slang for a sandwich which is a nickname that has come from my surname 'Prestwich'.

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Dingo's are no problem where we live its the drop bears we have to worry about. lol
Sanga.

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Beitrag von Timm Stolten » Sonntag, 9 November 2008, 19:55

sanga hat geschrieben:.......It was bought as H.argentea but I strongly suspect that to be incorrect so I would welcome any help..


Godday,

well I haven't seen a true argentea yet, but when I compare it to images like these
http://www.ernestartist.org/HechtiaArgentea01.htm
I have my doubts.
I appears to me as a simple glomerata, which is probably one
of the most common Hechtias in cultivation..
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Sanga unhappily I can not help you with your Hecthia.

Beitrag von Constantino Gastaldi » Montag, 10 November 2008, 0:01

I know almost nothing about Hechtias. In fact I have just two species H. rosea and H. marnier and that is it. My thing are Dyckias but after all I like Hechtias. Just the Orthophytum drives me out of my mind ´cause they get out of good shape after u had done all the best to culture them....all of a sudden they try to reach the skies up above.
Keep one eye wide opened..bears(?). The copper snakes are around there and never touch salt water...sea bees kill u. Here the mosquitoes do that very skillfully but most of them just try to.
Be nice and behave.
Constantino

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