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Till. balsasensis...which is what???

Verfasst: Sonntag, 24 Dezember 2006, 17:13
von gonzer
Here is the description Rauh gives in the tectorum complex book.
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Here is a photo from a web site calling this balsasensis, that mirrors the plants I have, purchased from Tillandsia International. It does not look anything like a small tectorum as Rauh states. These plants have leaf margins more akin to T. straminea and gardneri. How can these plants be so far apart? Thoughts please?

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Verfasst: Montag, 25 Dezember 2006, 18:05
von Denis Gödecke
Hi gonzer,

I do not know exactly this is not Tillandsia balsasensis. In this year our member Mrs. Lotte Hromadnik has publish a specially book "The Tillandsia tectorum complex". Please look here:

http://www.dbg-web.de/Sonderheft5_engl.htm

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Best regards and merry X-mas!

Denis

Sorry, I know my english is bad.

Verfasst: Dienstag, 26 Dezember 2006, 1:34
von gonzer
Denis, your English is FAR better than my German :D
The booklet, which I do have, is the origin of the top scan. Herr Rauh's description and drawing is very similiar to a small tectorum. All sites that sell balsasensis have plants that look like the lower photo, including Tillandsia Biotype in Thailand. These plants look nothing like Herr Rauh's, I'm just wondering why? Take care.

Greg

Verfasst: Dienstag, 26 Dezember 2006, 20:02
von Timm Stolten
Hi gonzer,

your plant is definitely NO balsasensis.
I'm not sure but I think we still do have the type-plant alive in our collection.
I'm gonna check that next week and will try to take a picture.
Try to picture it like a Tillandsia grao-mogulensis, formerly known
as Tillandsia kurt-horstii.

Verfasst: Mittwoch, 27 Dezember 2006, 1:01
von gonzer
Thank you Timm! Please keep me informed.

gonzo greg

Verfasst: Dienstag, 9 Januar 2007, 19:39
von Lieselotte Hromadnik
Hi Gonzer,
in the same booklet you also have a scan of T. balsasensis (yours is surely none) compared to T. chusgonensis, page 53, you see, my drawing is quite similar, it seems a tiny T. tectorum with one or two spikes.
Maybe your plant comes from Balsas, then it might be Vriesea curvispica, which is growing there (also described by "Herrn Rauh") and looks like yours.
Regards, L.

Verfasst: Mittwoch, 10 Januar 2007, 14:16
von Peter Kendzierski
Hallo, es ist doch schön, wenn alle ihre Meinumg in englisch schreiben und auf die deutsche Anfrage meldet sich niemand. Sind Tillandsien doch nur was für die " Gescheiten" ? Peter

Verfasst: Mittwoch, 10 Januar 2007, 17:52
von Lieselotte Hromadnik
Auf welche deutsche Anfrage denn ? Die letzte mit 0 Antworten ist die von Tesla, und ich kann mir schon vorstellen, dass da niemand mit Bestimmtheit etwas sagen kann. Ich auch nicht, werd es aber trotzdem jetzt dann versuchen!
L.

Verfasst: Samstag, 27 Januar 2007, 9:38
von Timm Stolten
Hi Gonzer

it took a while but finally I was able to take a picture of our
Tillandsia balsasensis. This is a little piece of a bigger clump.
Please keep in mind that now during the winter the light condition are bad
and that this plant is being keept in much to moist greenhouse.
In summer it looks much better.

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I hope this will help you out.

Greetings Timm

PS: This is Prof. Rauhs type-plant 54227 !

Verfasst: Samstag, 27 Januar 2007, 14:53
von gonzer
Thank you very much Timm! Your photo is exactly as Herr Rauh described the plant. We can send men into space, re-invent the computer every week...why can't someone write a definitive book with photos on Tillandsias? :(

Verfasst: Samstag, 27 Januar 2007, 20:56
von Timm Stolten
gonzer hat geschrieben:.why can't someone write a definitive book with photos on Tillandsias? :(
That is exactly what we are trying to achieve with our bromwiki.
Did you check that yet ?
www.bromwiki.net

Greetz Timm